In March, 2010 I visited the collection of my friend, Horst Weggler.  Among the amazing things he had in his collection were the following Thorens machines.  I cannot exactly ID these from the catalogues I have collected.

Machine 1 (Back mount with an 'orthophonic' style reproducer.  Add on or a post-1925 machine?):


Machine 2 (Front mount with a mismatched (?) reproduction leather elbow.):